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    When mixing the jerky mix I end up with a ball or blob of waxy type of material at the bottom of the liquid not sure why I mix the heck out of it

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    Prefix what jerky seasoning are you using?

    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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    It’s the bold jerky mix

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    I’ve also noticed it while mixing the Willis snack stick mix in cold water so now I mix the seasoning into the meat then add water and mix

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    I think when i did the bold I didnt add any extra water. I did add water to the pepper snd garlic and didn’t notice what you were talking about.

    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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    Prefix Can you send me a picture or anything, or post one of it? I’ve made many batches of the jerky and have never noticed this. Are you using anything other than the jerky seasoning and the sure cure package?

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    I will send a picture when I do the next batch if i get the same results. I am only using the jerky mix and sure cure

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    Prefix Also, if you still have the bags please give me the lot # on them so I can try and replicate.

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    Lot number 002-1668. I measure out as instructed I use a large sealable container to mix and shake seasoning,surger and cure together.results still taste fine but need to try and break up the thick non dissolved stuff by hand before marinating meat

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    Prefix does it say to use sugar in the directions or are you just wanting a sweeter flavor?

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    Per your video for the marinade I add brown surger

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    I just mixed up another batch not seeing any issues with this one. I mixed in all the surger until dissolved then added the seasoning mixed it in then added the cure looks ok

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    Not sure how to attach a picture but I did have the same waxy ball

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    This is my experience with adding sugar to Jerky seasonings. You absolutely have to get your sugar dissolved First. Then add seasonings and cure. When you dont (or in our experience) you get a syrup on the outside of the Jerky that wont allow it to dry enough to get the Water activity low enough for shelf stability. similar to case hardening on other products. Im not sure if this could be the waxy ball your getting or not though.

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    Prefix Sorry, i didn’t pick up on the fact that this was the tender jerky with the more sugar added! Cabelas90 is correct (as he often is) certain things like Cold Phosphate or Sugar you need to add that first. The tender jerky at home video Does go over the need to mix the sugar in first to make sure it gets totally dissolved in the water. “Because we need the water to dissolve as much sugar as possible we will be mixing that in first and then adding the cure and seasonings to the mix. You really need to mix this very well, my recommendation would be once you think you are done keep going for another few minutes.”

    So, next time definitely mix sugar first. With the willies, did it look exactly the same as with the bold?

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    Yes the Willie’s did. This time I added surger 1st it was completely dissolved before adding seasoning

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    Prefix So after Mixing the sugar first you still got the waxy ball? If so id say Either the sugar is coming out of suspension and settling back to the bottom or there something else going on. Im not Really Familiar with the Bold and the Version of Willies I use is slightly Modified So Jonathon May have to Chime in here again.

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    Prefix Those are two seasonings (in fact maybe THE two seasonings) that I am very familiar with and I have never had the issue. I checked with Excalibur to see if anything was reported on that batch and there was not. I have to think that there would have been with how many commercial processors use that so I’m left thinking that it could be either an issue with the water or the sugar you are using? If you have any more of the bag I’d happily replace it with a full bag if you could send the rest of your bag to me for testing? I’d pay for shipping. Normally I would go grab a bag but we have moved on to another lot # so it wouldn’t be apples to apples.

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    Thanks for the offer. Not much left in the bag. I’m just going to continue to try different methods. maybe mix the surger and seasoning separately and check them before putting together

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