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Cured German Sausage Seasonings

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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    #1

    Can you use this seasoning for Fresh Brats and just not add the Cure? Has anyone done that? I do not want to smoke or cook all at the same time. Any info would be much appreciated because I want to make a batch on Saturday.

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  • M Offline
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    mdseaside Team Orange
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    #2

    Not a real expert on this, but I do not see why it would not work. Only thing is there might be some sort of additive that needs time to do it’s magic. All that being said I would give it a try.

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  • PivodogP Offline
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    #3

    I don’t see why not! Can you post a link to the seasoning that you are looking at and I can look at it.

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  • HerbcoFoodH Offline
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    HerbcoFood Regular Contributors Team Orange Sous Vide
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    I agree in why it wouldn’t work with withholding any cure.

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  • Ridley AcresR Offline
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    Ridley Acres Wisconsin Team Orange Regular Contributors
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    #5

    fresh sausage doesn’t need cure as it won’t be in an environment for bacteria growth long enough. If its between 37-140 degrees for 2hrs + AND its in low/no oxygen environment you must use cure.

    Fresh sausage is low/no oxygen if stuffed in casing but it won’t be in the danger temps long enough.

    You should expect that won’t get the hammy taste without the cure. If you go without cure you should replace with equal amount of salt.

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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User Kansas Dry Cured Sausage
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    OutdoorCharlie Yes, you can. Now, if you are really sensitive to salt you might want to use 5-10% less seasoning per lb of meat as the salt content is formulated for a cured sausage not a fresh sausage. Personally, I would use at 100% strength.

    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltons.com youtube page at https://www.youtube.com/@waltonsinc

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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    #7

    Ok thanks guys?

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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    #8

    Ok thanks guys?

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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    #9

    Pivodog https://www.waltonsinc.com/german-sausage-seasoning

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  • PivodogP Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie That should be fine. They just give you the cure to be used if you want to smoke them.

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  • D Offline
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    DerJaeger
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    I’ve been making my own Bratwurst with my own spice recipe for decades. I have never used cure. I just freeze the end product and use as needed. Never had any problems.

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  • processheadP Offline
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    processhead Power User Regular Contributors Smoker Build Expert Bowl Choppers Nebraska Veteran Team Camo
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    Adding cure is for when you plan to smoke or thermal process at low temperatures or are looking for the flavor and color development that cure adds.
    If you are hot smoking or grilling, no cure is necessary.

    Paul

    • How hard can it be?
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  • PivodogP Offline
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    Pivodog
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    #13

    Have you thought about just making your own seasoning? It’s really not that hard and a bunch of people on this board would probably share there’s? I would? The benefit is that you know what u got?

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  • PivodogP Offline
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    sorry, to ramble
    but if you’re just trying something new, I get it!

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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    Pivodog yes trying a new flavor. But if you would like to share I would try it in another batch for sure.

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    #16

    Here’s the last recipe I use for Brats?

     5lbs/2270g	BNLS pork butt or BNL picnics
    1.6oz/45g	Salt
    0.4oz/11g 	Sugar
    1oz/28g	Fresh chopped onion
    0.25oz/7g	Ground white pepper
    0.006 oz/0.2g	Ground allspice
    0.05oz/1.5g	Ground celery seed
    1.6oz/45g	Non-fat dry milk
    0.07oz/2g	Lemon juice
    4oz/113g 	Crushed ice
    10ft/3m	casing
    
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  • OutdoorCharlieO Offline
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    OutdoorCharlie
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    #17

    Pivodog thank you!!

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