Happy new gun day!

[WVTim]

Tex_77 he’s fine with a knife at least after waltons started selling cut resistant gloves. It maybe that’s why they are selling them…

[bocephus]

Jonathon Yes, if it is consistently low for you, then adjust for your shooting. With open sights, peoples sight plains can be very different. On the other hand, if you think you are not getting the front sight properly lined up, keep practicing.

[bocephus]

Jonathon Are your groups tight but just low? If so I would elevate the rear sight. But definitely shoot it some more to verify.

[salmonmaster]

Jonathon make sure you try different brands of ammo. My Springfield XD shoots different groups, with different loads, sometimes up to 4 inches different from load to load at the same 10 yard mark.

[GWG8541]

processhead absolutely, Jonathon just make sure you clear the chamber before dry firing.

[GWG8541]

Jonathon OK, don’t hate me for saying this now, but grip angles on guns are different. So if you have some muscle memory built up from your other gun, it may be a noticeably different angle. Every person has a different natural grip angle and point of aim. In other words your natural grip angle may be more suited to a different weapon. There are so many other things that could be going on that causes the low group, but the the two things I would look at with a newer or even experienced shooter is first making sure your shooting hand is all the way up on the backstrap of the grip. Let the gun rest as low as possible in the hand. The second thing is simply sight alignment. What you see as the sites being centered up and down will be different than another shooter (example is the RSO). So my advise is to make sure your grip is all they way up on the grip and that your front sight post is up across the top of the rear site. After that, as someone has already mentioned, it would be trigger management. The big thing here is to give yourself a break. You are just getting used to the gun. I wish I could hit the range with you for a few hours. I work for beer.

[bocephus]

processhead Maybe a squirt gun would be appropriate.

[Jonathon]

GWG8541 Thanks for that, it actually did help me visualize a little more what the issue is/was. I am happy to report that I shot it again last night and I was pretty darn good with it. Not perfect but good. I figured out that my 1st shot was dead center and then they started getting low, so it was how I was pulling the trigger. I spent about 50 rounds REALLY concentrating (which for me is hard) on trying to surprise myself on when the trigger was pulled back enough and that basically fixed it, I was yanking the trigger and I think bracing too much. Anyway, I am at least as good with that as I was with my old M&P Shield so I am happy and on my way to being better with it.

[Craig Rice]

maybe take knowledge that to your M&P to see the difference

[bocephus]

Jonathon The only way to get better is to keep shooting. Now you will have to start reloading, the next step in the evolution.