Jonathon This discussion was perfect timing for a recent experience. I just finished a 6 lb batch each of venison summer sausage and venison snak stix using Walton products. I used Sure Gel with the summer sausage and carrot fiber with the snack stix. I mix by hand and thought it was much easier to get good protein extraction on the summer sausage with Sure Gel than with the carrot fiber in the snack stix. I am fairly new to making cured sausage. From this experience I think I’ll stay with Sure Gel. It was easier and provided better results.